It all started innocently enough, as these things often do. I woke up on my birthday, checked my email and came across this one from Wells Fargo:
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Bank Online: It's Easy, Secure & It Pays
Get $20 for Accessing Your Accounts Online*
Banking online helps you control your finances more easily:
It's easy to get started – and to get your $20 just for using your Online Banking to access your Wells Fargo accounts online – in one place, with one password:
1. Go to www.wellsfargo.com
2. Sign on to Wells Fargo Online® Banking by entering your
Username and Password under View Your Accounts
3. Do this three times from August 1, 2005 through September 30,
2005, and we'll credit $20 to your primary deposit account
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Plus, we guarantee that you will be covered 100% for any funds removed from your Wells Fargo accounts without your approval, while using our Online Banking service2.
To get your $20, simply use Wells Fargo Online Banking to access your account three times by Sept. 30, 2005.
Get started or call . We're available 24/7.
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I hadn't checked my Wells Fargo account in a long time. Maybe that's why they were prodding me back into it. I don't know. Who cares, right? It doesn't take much effort to log into the site three times in a month and if they thought it was worth $20 to do so, I wasn't going to complain.
Just for some background before I continue. I had been planning to close down my Wells account last summer when I moved all my banking over to Washington Mutual. I made the change because Wells had an absurd fee structure which I didn't want to deal with any more including charging 8 bucks a month for online bill pay. Personally I think the banks ought to be paying us for using online bill pay services that saves them money, but that's another story. Banking at WAMU was completely free, including online bill bay, so it was a no brainer to make the switch.
On the day I went into the Well Fargo branch in downtown Walnut Creek, I was talking to the branch manager about my decision and he asked me if I would think about keeping the account open if they eliminated monthly service charges on the account permanently. He said they couldn't not charge me for online bill pay, but if we cancelled the service he would install a permanent fee waiver and the account would be free.
Ok. Cool. I thought, this is perfect. I can keep some cash in the account, around 200 bucks, and if I ever can't find a WAMU ATM, I can use one from Wells without having to suffer one of the abominable ATM service charges. I walked out of the bank a happy guy and didn't much think about Wells.
Skip to the 4th of August, my birthday, and this email from Wells Fargo prompting me to check to accounts online. Since this account is so insignificant, I don't even look at my monthly statements. I know this is wrong, but I can't be bothered. I just open the envelope and file the statement. So I had no idea what was going on in my account. But here's Wells, not only prompting me to check out my account, but offering to pay me to do so. Aw, the sweet irony...
So I go online and check my account. I see the money in there. Good. I dig a little deeper into the transaction history and there's a bunch of fucking monthly service charges. I nearly flipped my computer over. The only reason I keep the damn account is because it's free. And here they are, charging me. Fuck them! I fire off an email.
Hi-
Last summer I came into the Walnut Creek, CA branch to close my Wells Fargo account. I talked to the branch manager and he convinced me to keep my account open by assuring me that my account would be free and there would be no monthly fees for as long as I kept it open.
This morning, I logged into my account my to see that an 8 dollar monthly service fee has been levied for the last two months. Please reverse theses fees and assure me that I will never be charged them again or I will shut down this account and you lose me as a customer.
thanks,
Andrew
Pretty straight forward, right? An explanation of the problem. A simple remedy. And consequences should said remedy not be applied.
A few hours later, I get a response from Jacque Goutchier at Wells Fargo Online Customer Service. For some reason, Wells can't just simply email you a response. They email you a response saying that you have a response. You have to log into your account to read it. Which is pretty funny to me because they just earlier sent me an email prompting me to log into my account three times ("To get your $20, simply use Wells Fargo Online Banking to access your account three times by Sept. 30, 2005") and here it's only the 4th of August, and I'm on log on number two. Anyway, Mr. Gouthier replies:
Dear Andrew Hecht:
In response to your inquiry about Wells Fargo Custom Checking, the account will remain free of monthly service charges if one or more of the following applies:
*Receive a single qualifying electronic Direct Deposit of $100.00 or more per month.
*Maintain a minimum daily balance of $1,000.00.
*Receive a Direct Debit from a qualifying Wells Fargo loan within 60 days of account opening and at least once every 90 days.
*Have a Wells Fargo Home Mortgage or Home Equity Line of Credit payment with a monthly automatic deduction from your account.
If the account does not meet these qualifications, then a monthly fee of $8.00 will be charged.
To see if there is a Wells Fargo account that may better meet your needs go to http://www.wellsfargo.com or call to speak with a banker. Bankers are available to assist you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
After reviewing your account, we found that your account did not meet the qualifications to waive the monthly service fee. Therefore, these fees will not be refunded.
If you have any questions or need further assistance, please email us through a secured banking session or call us at to speak with a banker. Bankers are available to assist you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
In addition, when your account was opened, a fee disclosure statement was provided as part of your new account opening kit. To make certain that all of your questions are answered, I have sent you a copy of the disclosure covering your account. Please allow 10 business days for delivery.
Thank you for banking with Wells Fargo.
Basically he whipped his dick out and slapped me in the face with it. Not only are we not going to refund the fees we levied, but, if I don't make changes to my account, they are going to continue to charge me eight bucks a month until my account cannibalizes itself and I won't have to bother shutting down because it won't exist. This is what passes for customer service at Wells these days.
Mr. Goutchier,
This wasn't what I was lead to believe when the branch manager of the Walnut Creek, CA branch convinced me to not close my account. He said there would be no fees whatsoever. I asked him if there were any requirements to maintain that status. He said no.
From the summer of 2005 when this commitment was made to me until the last few months, Wells Fargo lived up to the commitment and no monthly service charges were made to account while it did not live up the requirements you outline in your response. Clearly something has changed. And the fact that Wells Fargo would resume charging monthly fees against my account without informing me and for no reason is completely underhanded and not the type of customer service I've come to expect from Wells Fargo. (n.b. This is a lie. This is exactly the type of customer service I've come to expect from this piddling bank).
I expect you to live up to the commitment. I also expect you to refund all the monthly service charges that have been levied against my account.
thank you,
Andrew
Would this do the trick? Of course not. I would have to wade through the cesspool of another layer of entrenched moronic "customer service" in order to get what I wanted.
Dear Andrew Hecht:
We are sorry that you did not receive the service you deserve and expect from Wells Fargo. We constantly strive to provide you with the highest level of customer service.
I have researched your inquiry about your monthly service fee. It appears that the branch had placed a temporary waiver on your monthly service fee. This waiver has expired and the monthly service fee began being charged to your account again on June 13, 2005.
Although we show that the monthly service fees were correctly applied, we value your business, and in this case, have reimbursed your account for $16.00. You will see this adjustment on your account within 2 business days.
Online Customer Service is unable to add a permanent fee waiver to your account. Please visit your local branch, to speak with a Personal Banking Officer or Branch Manager about a permanent fee waiver.
We appreciate your business and thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with us.
Sincerely,
Amy Johnson
Ok. Now. At least we're getting somewhere. I'm halfway home. Fees will be reversed. But if I want a permanent fees waiver. I actually have to go to a branch. The reason Ms. Johnson gives is that these neutered folks at Online Customer Service don't have the power to make the adjustment. What a load of crap. They have the power to levy the fees. And they have the power to piss on my leg and tell me I'm full of shit. Time to stop fooling around.
Thank you for making the adjustment to my account. However I assure you that the regardless of your inquiry, I was promised a permanent fee waiver, as you call it. I only kept the account open because of this promise. Why would I maintain an account with around a $200 balance if it was going to be cannibalized by monthly fees? It's absurd.
It is an incredible imposition for me even to have to deal with and respond to your emails regarding this egregious customer service error, to put it mildly. I'm not going into the branch in Walnut Creek or any branch anywhere to discuss this with anyone. This is the last email I will write about this subject. I suggest that if you want to keep me as customer that you will find someone who can make the fee waiver permanent and that person will send me documentation to assure me that the fee waiver will be permanent. Because the next time I step into a Wells Fargo Branch it will not be to discuss the vagaries of your fee schedule or your pathetic customer service, but to close my account and never return to Wells Fargo.
Good day. I said GOOD DAY.
Dear Andrew Hecht:
I apologize for the poor level of customer service that you have received as a customer of Wells Fargo. This is not the type of service that you deserve. I have placed a permanent fee waiver onto your Custom Checking account so that, going forward, no future monthly service fees will be deducted from your account. The permanent fee waiver is in effect as of today, 08/06/2005.
Again, I apologize for the frustration that you have encountered and hope that you will reconsider your decision to leave Wells Fargo.
I appreciate your business and thank you for banking with Wells Fargo.
Sincerely,
Michael Farragut
Wells Fargo
Online Customer Service
See, if you press hard enough, you'll eventually get what you want. But why the fuck should I have to waste any energy dealing with Mr. Farragut, Mr. Gouthier, or that lying sack of shit, Amy Johnson? I shouldn't. This is a complete and utter waste of my time for an account that is almost next to meaningless to me.
Ironically, because of this farcical exchange, Wells Fargo now owes me $20 for accessing my online account 3 times before September 20th. What a bunch of fucktards.